Alldayeveryday is exploring Playboy Magazine’s impact on design culture by revisiting ‘The Playboy’s Progress,’ the original map of seduction published in the May 1954 issue that revealed interesting connections between design and desire. This is the second of a series of interviews and essays by Alldayeveryday. Interview by Alexandre Stipanovich.

Natalie Krim draws more than naïve diary scribbles featuring sexy dainty girls. Curator and artist Aaron Rose, who selected her work for our La Rosa Social Club in LA, once wrote, “with Natalie Krim, sex becomes a metaphor, but in reality, these works reveal the silent screams of a young woman coming to terms with herself and her relationship to the world.” For Natalie, they are “self-portraits of loss and desire.”

We asked Natalie about the “Playboy’s Progress,” the map of seduction Playboy magazine published during their early years. Read below what turns Natalie off when she enters a man’s apartment, and how she would arrange her place to beguile her new acquaintance.

How do you feel when you’re trying to seduce someone?
It varies from person to person. I naturally am not a dominating person in dating, but I wouldn’t necessarily call that fragile. There are moments of strengths and fragility; the combination of both is where I fit. I never make the first move but have no problem taking the reins once that door is open.

Is seduction a state of mind?
The most important part of seducing a lover is being in tune with their personality and their bodies; what works for one person may have another person running for the hills. Being educated in the art of eroticism allows me to pull from an arsenal of seduction methods that ultimately leave both parties satisfied and intrigued. The only seduction method that is absolute is confidence, so experimenting and indulging make these practices second nature.

I never make the first move but have no problem taking the reins once that door is open.

What do you think of the “Playboy’s Progress” map?
The map is a bit outdated, but also there are some truths that are still very much present in modern dating. Like the “friend,” I’m always the girl trying to figure out where the food is while being oblivious to any “moves” being made.

Have you ever walked into a man’s apartment curated to attract female acquaintances, and could you tell?
There have been moments when I’ve walked into a man’s home and immediately thought he was very skilled in making ladies feel comfortable in his surroundings. Sometimes it’s too accommodating and in those instances I know that the relationship isn’t going to go much further. If a guy offers you an extra toothbrush, tampons, and makeup remover beware that his beautifully lit home is most likely a revolving door for late night female visitors. On the other hand, it’s been my experience that if he keeps on his fluorescent lighting, illuminating the piles of dirty laundry in his bedroom, he most likely will fall short in all matters of seduction. There should be a nice balance between frat house and whorehouse.

Can an interior reflect a state of mind?
Of course, it does. Walking into someone’s home gives insight into the inner workings of their mind: are they creative, are they messy, are they a minimalist, are they materialistic, are they well read? I once had a guy yell at me for walking into his apartment with my shoes on and insist that I wash my feet in his bath before entering any further… I can respect the no shoe rule, fine, but the letters OCD crossed my mind in bold flashing lights. There are always subtle, or not so subtle clues in a home that can hint at someone’s mental state, didn’t we all learn that from watching “American Psycho”?

Seduction: There are moments of strengths and fragility; the combination of both is where I fit.

Does it make sense for a woman to have a bachelor pad or is it a solely masculine attribute?
It is important for a woman to have a home that makes her feel comfortable and inspired, whether or not that is a “bachelor pad” is up to her. Because of my love for all these erotic and romantic my home naturally reflects a sense of seduction. I openly display my vintage lingerie collection and erotic memorabilia and always have flowers and candles. That’s how I create my world and people are welcome to enter it, but again I do that for me and not with anyone else in mind.

What would be your “map for seduction”: what cocktail, what piece of design/furniture, what book, what record, what surprise or trick?
Cocktail: (I don’t drink) So I would be more inclined to offer them a smoky tea or an elderflower drink.
Furniture/ design: a row of 1920’s movie theater seats in worn pink velvet, Rumrill art deco pottery, original Irving Klaw Polaroid’s, and a stack of John Willie Illustrations.
Book: Georges Bataille’s Eroticism: Death and Sensuality
Record: A toss up between Brenton Wood’s, “I Like The Way You Love Me,” and Biggie Surprise/ Trick: I have to keep some mystery!