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Playboy.com: Why do you change gears and put them in Beverly Hills in the second half of the movie?
Clark: I was taking them out to restaurants and everything. There are no restaurants in South Central -- it's all pizza-through-a-hole with bulletproof glass. They'd never been to a restaurant where they actually brought food to the table. It may be funny, but it's the reality there. I just got this idea one day when they were skating in Beverly Hills.... What if Paris and Nicky Hilton drove by in their convertible and saw Jonathan and Kico and thought they were hot, and took them to Beverly Hills, and their boyfriends came, and there was a fight and someone called the cops? This was about two years before the Paris Hilton sex tapes; Paris and Nicky were famous for doing nothing except clubbing and being rich and being able to chase hot boys and party. I thought, Who would the boys find if they started hopping fences in Beverly Hills, who might be there? And who would be like them up there? That would be the maids. It was a very organic process that took over a year to figure out.
Playboy.com: The most memorable scene in Wassup Rockers might just be the long pre-coital conversation between Kico and Nikki sitting on her bed, talking about the differences between South Central and Beverly Hills. And it's a very un-Larry Clark scene; they're not having sex or even naked....
Clark: On the day we did that scene, I told Kico to tell Jessica Steinbaum, the young actress, what it's like to live in the ghetto. I told her to ask him questions. I'd known Kico for eight or nine months before he was able to have a personal conversation with me. One day, he told me all this personal stuff; I wanted that to be in the film. It was getting him in a position where he could tell these stories on camera. So I started shooting the scene, but they were all over the place. The trick was to make them lock eyes -- then, they really got into it. He's really telling her this story about his life for the first time, and she's really amazed and interested, because she's from a different environment. I just had to get them comfortable enough to do that. I was tearing up, watching. I was thinking, This is my movie, this is what I've been working a year and a half to do. It's magic, but in the script it just says, "Kico-Nikki sit in the bed and talk." And it's an eight-minute scene.
Playboy.com: Then just when Kico makes his move, the prep-school boyfriends arrive and chaos breaks out. Poor Kico can't get laid in the movie.
Clark: [Laughs] Kico's character is trying to get laid, but he keeps getting interrupted. That was my comedy thing. Jonathan's character is a girl-magnet -- he's this man-child. That is real life for him. He has no trouble with the girls; the girls just go to him. He gets fuckin' so much pussy, the little kid. [Laughs]
Playboy.com: You have a teenage son. What was the Larry Clark version of the birds-and-the-bees talk?
Clark: You don't wait until a certain time and say, now I'm going to have this talk, like on television. Their eyes will just glaze over. When the conversation comes up, right then is when you have to stop and talk about these things. With Kids, a lot of people would come with their sons and daughters together to see the film, and it would open up a dialogue between them about things that maybe aren't so easy to discuss. My son was 12, and I took him to see Kids. He was in sixth grade. After the film, he said, "Dad, I've never seen anything like that before." I thought, "This is the appropriate time." He was taking these rap classes in school, for the boys and the girls, where they would sit and rap about sex and things that go on in their lives. Because Telly in Kids is having sex with these virgins in such a rough way, I said, "That's really not the way it's done." I start telling him about virgins and the so-called breaking of the hymen and menstruation. I said, "Do you talk about this in your rap class in school?" And he said [mimicking a squeaky voice], "No, Dad, we're still talking about wet dreams and masturbation." [Laughing] I just died.
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