How Police Can Save More Lives—and Take Fewer: A Playboy Conversation with Norm Stamper

Norm Stamper, a former cop who served for more than three decades and rounded out his law-enforcement career as Seattle's chief of police, is one of America's most vital authorities on police brutality and reform. In summer 2016 he published his second book, To Protect and Serve, and contributed an essay entitled "Fix the Police"  to our July/August Freedom Issue. With a markedly different leader in the White House, we reconnected with Stamper in the hope of gleaning some fresh insights. It's our privilege to present this conversation—on the high-profile police shootings of the last few years, the travesty of the drug war, the importance of community involvement and much more—between Stamper and Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Hedrick Smith.

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